Call To Adventure

In this inaugural episode, hosts Jeff Garvin and Dan Zarzana introduce the concept of The Hero’s Journey using examples from Star Wars and Harry Potter.


Show Notes & Links

San Fernando Brewing Company  (Imperial Death Star Stout!)

Solid Walls Just Pretending by 7k

Star Wars Throne Room Scene Without Music


Corrections & Retractions:
  • Jeff spoke about Joseph Campbell in the present tense–but, in fact, he is no longer with us. He passed away on October 30, 1987, 30 years before this podcast was released. We miss him deeply.
  • Okay, technically Harry doesn’t actually cast priori incantatem–it’s just a magical side effect created by the collision of his spell with Voldem… You-Know-Who’s.
  • Yes, Jeff totally intended to say “out of the belly’s whale.” It’s a thing.


Jeff Garvin is an author, musician, and actor. His debut novel, Symptoms of Being Human, is an ALA Best Fiction for Young Adults Selection, a Lambda Literary Award Finalist, and garnered starred reviews from Booklist and Publishers Weekly. Before becoming a novelist, Jeff acted on TV and toured as the lead singer of a rock band. He has a BFA in Film from Chapman University and lives in Southern California.

Comments (8)

  • An exciting episode! You talked about two of my favorite things: Harry Potter and Star Wars. I loved all the various impressions. My fave moment is the grandfather from Princess Bride (Peter Falk, BTW, not Gene Hackman)

  • Thought provoking and entertaining. Enjoyed your interaction, and wanted to share one of those beers at the end! Wasn’t the return of Princess Leia to her people and her leadership position a kind of “return of the elixir”? A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles has this Hero’s Journey, and it was fun mentally following your Cambellian steps through the story (albeit, at a gentler pace and intensity than your exciting examples!). Thanks, guys! Look forward to the next episode. By the way, loved the musical lead-ins and punctuation.

    • As far as the complete Star Wars saga is concerned, the rescue of Princess Leia is absolutely a seize of the sword and a return with the elixir. Her leadership throughout the following three films, The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Return of the Jedi (1983), The Force Awakens (2015), one might even insert her brief appearance in Rogue One 2016), enabled the Rebellion to succeed far beyond its capacity. Look everyone, my mom pwned me on the Internet!

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